VIP rules - noclip

I really think that it has to be a change here.

Yesterday I played at the cs4 zombie server, and some vip joins the server. He becomes a zombie and as soon as he can he uses noclip to infect all humans, Then he wait until he can use it again and does the same thing over and over again.. map after map. All the players complain's about it but he dont care. He wants to get many kills.. THIS REALLY SUCKS! Normal players has a hard time to get ammopacks to buy autosnipers etc. And then some noob vip comes and destroys it all for them. Everyone's complaining about it when it happens in the server but nobody writes about it in the forum. I know many more of u has a opinion, let i out

The goal with this thread is that i want you, admins and members to make a new rule: No infection with noclip.
Fullkit as a zombie so they cant get an infectionbomb is not allowed. Why not to noclip as well? It's the same thing only that u have no chance to get away. I think it's ok to use noclip to infect someone who's at a place at the map that is wery hard to reach, but not to use it in a map like funworld and then infect everyone on top of the yellow box and the vent.. What happens if more people is buying vip and start doing the same thing? It will not work.


Sorry for bad english
/Relaxx The Don

well we get your point
The truth is that VIPs pay for they powers, and therefore they should be able to use it since they pay for it

I know how you feel, relaxx.

I've been on the zombie servers since mars 09, as well I thought it was VERY anoying with VIP's using no clip to infect all off us in one spot.

But! The VIP was actully made for zombie server (at least koyumu said that), so they got right to use it, and they bought it aswell, they should be able to use it.

Yea but it still sucks.. And that is what I want to change.

People was leaving the server just because the vip guy was destroying for all the others. How fun is that? The people on the server actually asked me if I could make a vote to ban him just because he used the noclip all the time. I'ts really sad to see that if u pay ur allowed to ruin the game for all the others. That's not how it should be.

totally agree with the relaxation noclip limit yourself this way is easy and makes the game not because players normally can not really play by metteant a hiding to try to get in or even hide ilimmiter short and tried to make frag.
I shot them several times in metteant ilimmité or being a zombie I took an antidote 15 amo a snipe and self 12amo illimté 17amo and he crossed the walls and I was alone and limits and seeing me and zombify So I boussilé 44amo it for anything beyond a bullet fired what is annoying.
I can understand that there has to be put at a place difficult to reach into a human or leak or limits go faster but has a place to blow the zombify is really annoying.
There are several useful thing like having a snipe self quad damage or even make a votemap or another and so on but surely it's not really making games.
I hope you will think for many players and servers too.

im sry.. is this allowed to use no clip to infect.. ?? i think i have seen something in vip rules that proves the opposite.. ???


it's just like on jail.. there is rules what a vip can do and not do.. becuz it can ruin the gameplay.. ?? but whys that only on jail.. ?? and basebuilder says.. you cant use no clip to infect people.. ?? so its pretty ridiculous they can on normal zombie server..

Can't we make a poll on this forum?
1) VIP schould stay
2) VIP has to go


ps. This was my post... giving my opinion about VIP:
http://neondragon.forumotion.co.uk/vip-donation-forums-f22/vip-fair-or-unfair-t5458.htm

850i wrote:Can't we make a poll on this forum?
1) VIP schould stay
2) VIP has to go


ps. This was my post... giving my opinion about VIP:
http://neondragon.forumotion.co.uk/vip-donation-forums-f22/vip-fair-or-unfair-t5458.htm

VIP's having to go is not an option.
The community need an income to pay for the servers.

Marksel wrote:
VIP's having to go is not an option.
The community need an income to pay for the servers.

In that case I hope you'll be able to get 32 VIP's for the "32 slot server", or change it to a 16 slot server which is cheaper

VIP is the beginning of a money making community or the beginning of a road going down hill.

I will not join the server as often as I did, that's for sure!!!

vip = money = pay the server

is that they are annoying but there is no way to avoid this.

Element wrote:vip = money = pay the server

is that they are annoying but there is no way to avoid this.

VIP = cheat = unfair for other players = find other server

There's only one way to avoid players leaving the server and that is:

Make the balans between VIP and "normal players" equal again.

1) Make sure that VIP doesnt possess powers, with extreme difference to the powers of the normal players.
Floating through walls like a ghost is a serieous difference.

2) Make VIP persuasive to people by:
- ability to carry an extra gun
- A higher starting amount of ammopacks, 10 instead of 5.
- Standard possessing armor
- Reserved slot on server
- Ability to create a map vote (with strict rules)
- Ability to kick people who block or show bad behavior
- Ability to ban people also with strict rules (for instants a Demo that can be discussed, no demo = no ban)

Something like that.

VIP won't be removed regardless of how bad you think it is, nor will no-clip be removed.

It's something you're going to have to live with.

I think that it is complete crap that you can use no-clip to infect people, it should not be allowed since it screws over the entire point of the zombie mod. "they paid for it so they have the right to do so" is complete crap to. Vips also have a vote ban in their menu it's not as if they can use that on everyone, or give themselves guns on jailbreak as t. Zombies can't fly in any possible way, so they shouldn't be allowed to do so with the vip menu either. Ofcourse if you're bored and you want to use noclip to randomly fly a bit you should be allowed to do so, but not for infecting people.

I see removing no-clip as a possibility but it doesn't seem smart. It's part of what the current vips payed for. And it makes buying vip a whole lot more attractive.

Marksel wrote:VIP won't be removed regardless of how bad you think it is, nor will no-clip be removed.

It's something you're going to have to live with.

Who are you to decide for me??
Are you acting like an online dictator or just unable to communicate ?

I told you already..... I dont have to live with anything..... I just wont join the server anymore.

I gave my opinion, you can give your's, but never decide anything for me man.

You make me feel like there is no room for discussion... why have a forum then?

Ow f**k this sh*t, pure waste of time

I hope people aren't stupid enough to even considering buying VIP.

oempaloempa wrote:I think that it is complete crap that you can use no-clip to infect people, it should not be allowed since it screws over the entire point of the zombie mod. "they paid for it so they have the right to do so" is complete crap to. Vips also have a vote ban in their menu it's not as if they can use that on everyone, or give themselves guns on jailbreak as t. Zombies can't fly in any possible way, so they shouldn't be allowed to do so with the vip menu either. Ofcourse if you're bored and you want to use noclip to randomly fly a bit you should be allowed to do so, but not for infecting people.

I see removing no-clip as a possibility but it doesn't seem smart. It's part of what the current vips payed for. And it makes buying vip a whole lot more attractive.

I don't see you running the servers. Do you know even how much the servers cost for neon? He pays like 2 grand each year just for our amusement, so yes I think VIP's can do whatever they like whit the no-clip. If the servers didn't cost so much then neon wouldn't even add VIP. VIP's actually help us abit to keep the servers up and we are thankfull for it. There will be added tons of new features to the VIP menu so people are more likely to buy VIP at nD.

For the no-clip it's just simple. The no-clip was added for the zombie servers. Whitout it I don't even think people would consider buying VIP. We will see whit VIP's in the feature. Making in populair etc.

850i wrote:

Marksel wrote:VIP won't be removed regardless of how bad you think it is, nor will no-clip be removed.

It's something you're going to have to live with.

Who are you to decide for me??
Are you acting like an online dictator or just unable to communicate ?

I told you already..... I dont have to live with anything..... I just wont join the server anymore.

I gave my opinion, you can give your's, but never decide anything for me man.

You make me feel like there is no room for discussion... why have a forum then?

Ow f**k this sh*t, pure waste of time

I hope people aren't stupid enough to even considering buying VIP.

Relax just ignore him, we understand your problem but the thing is that we cant do much against VIP's because the plugin for VIP is actually made for the zombie server. I know how anoying it is when they use no-clip on certain places but just try to ignore or get a better hiding spot

850i wrote:

Marksel wrote:VIP won't be removed regardless of how bad you think it is, nor will no-clip be removed.

It's something you're going to have to live with.

Who are you to decide for me??
Are you acting like an online dictator or just unable to communicate ?

I told you already..... I dont have to live with anything..... I just wont join the server anymore.

I gave my opinion, you can give your's, but never decide anything for me man.

You make me feel like there is no room for discussion... why have a forum then?

Ow f**k this sh*t, pure waste of time

I hope people aren't stupid enough to even considering buying VIP.

I have not decided anything for you, I am just stating a fact.
That is simply the way it is and will be.

Thanks for calling me all kinds of shit though, real mature.

1) I don't see you running the servers.
Not the issue here. Btw did that, done that..and many people with me.
2) Do you know even how much the servers cost for neon?
Not the concern of the players, nobody ordered Neon to.
3) He pays like 2 grand each year just for our amusement.
And there's. Try to get company's to sponsor the servers, and give them advertising for compensation.

ALter the game, making it less fun, isn't something to agree with. Is that a surprise, didn't people realy see this problem coming??
VIP is like bringing a gun to a knife fight.

I was talking to oempaloempa not you :\

Marksel wrote:

850i wrote:

Marksel wrote:VIP won't be removed regardless of how bad you think it is, nor will no-clip be removed.

It's something you're going to have to live with.

Who are you to decide for me??
Are you acting like an online dictator or just unable to communicate ?

I told you already..... I dont have to live with anything..... I just wont join the server anymore.

I gave my opinion, you can give your's, but never decide anything for me man.

You make me feel like there is no room for discussion... why have a forum then?

Ow f**k this sh*t, pure waste of time

I hope people aren't stupid enough to even considering buying VIP.

I have not decided anything for you, I am just stating a fact.



That is simply the way it is and will be.

Thanks for calling me all kinds of shit though, real mature.

First of all:
"It's something you're going to have to live with", is not stating fact. That's making a discission.

"That is simply the way it is and will be." That is a fact.

Second:

"Thanks for calling me all kinds of shit though, real mature".

What did I call you exactly?

(btw "real mature" idd, keep your eyes open and learn )

Ancient wrote:I was talking to oempaloempa not you :\

Just giving my opinion.

850i wrote:

Marksel wrote:

850i wrote:

Marksel wrote:VIP won't be removed regardless of how bad you think it is, nor will no-clip be removed.

It's something you're going to have to live with.

Who are you to decide for me??
Are you acting like an online dictator or just unable to communicate ?

I told you already..... I dont have to live with anything..... I just wont join the server anymore.

I gave my opinion, you can give your's, but never decide anything for me man.

You make me feel like there is no room for discussion... why have a forum then?

Ow f**k this sh*t, pure waste of time

I hope people aren't stupid enough to even considering buying VIP.

I have not decided anything for you, I am just stating a fact.



That is simply the way it is and will be.

Thanks for calling me all kinds of shit though, real mature.

First of all:
"It's something you're going to have to live with", is not stating fact. That's making a discission.

"That is simply the way it is and will be." That is a fact.

Second:

"Thanks for calling me all kinds of shit though, real mature".

What did I call you exactly?

(btw "real mature" idd, keep your eyes open and learn )

You sir, need to start reading what I actually say, aswell as what you say yourself.

I stated the fact: no-clip will not be removed.
And followed up with the advice: you're going to have to live with it.

as for the calling me all kinds of things:

Are you acting like an online dictator or just unable to communicate ?

Also, the edit button is there for a reason. Please use it instead of making 3 seperate posts.

Question mark???? Means it is a question. Means I didn't call you anything.

Maybe u should show some respect? Because this sir don't "need" to do anything.
You just don't understand, I dont blame you, it's oke my friend. In time you're eyes will open and you will see the real world.
Enjoy your adolescence

End of discussion?? I hope so. Otherwise you can have the last word and than bring this all back on topic again.

At the end, we should be having fun not be arguing.

HF and GL

ONLY ONE vip guy (Mark) uses noclip, so u dont need to change zombies rules, u just need to talk with him...

noclip = lame

Salach wrote:ONLY ONE vip guy (Mark) uses noclip, so u dont need to change zombies rules, u just need to talk with him...

noclip = lame

They were never even thinking to change the rules