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Post by koed dude Mon Sep 06, 2010 4:48 am

i was thinking f replacing the knife with a samurai sword that does alot of damage like 2-300 it would be awsome people would be hunting with swords to it would be more fun and when the zombies are hit by samurai sword they get a bit knock back so they dont infect Very Happy just a great idea

hope people agree this would be freaking awesome

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Post by W_a_S_y_L Mon Sep 06, 2010 5:17 am

Sorry but that would be a complete fail.
Why bother making a new knife, when everyone uses guns anyway?
We use knives only as our last recource when our ammo is depleted, and we dont make it with the stabbing anyway since 1 zombie slash = infection.

If all humans started "hunting with knives" it would be a zombie paradise in no time.

And the idea of knocking back?
Zombies barely can get close to someone when they shoot even with the weakest guns, and now you want to make it even harder by adding knockback to the knives? GG fail


You want a samurai sword (katana) skin? go here:

http://www.fpsbanana.com/
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Post by koed dude Mon Sep 06, 2010 5:44 am

lol what do u mean what point does it make it does much it will be more fun and zombies gets bigger chances lol and knock back i didnt mean like they should fly awey lol i ment a bit so we get a chance to

why u have to destroy my plan like that by saying big fail to me ??
ur just negativ think of all the fun with the sword insted of a borring litle knife why do we even have that knife we cant do anything with it samuray sword much better gives us more chances both for human and zombies

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Post by xReii Mon Sep 06, 2010 5:46 am

koed dude wrote:lol what do u mean what point does it make it does much it will be more fun and zombies gets bigger chances lol and knock back i didnt mean like they should fly awey lol i ment a bit so we get a chance to

why u have to destroy my plan like that by saying big fail to me ??
ur just negativ think of all the fun with the sword insted of a borring litle knife why do we even have that knife we cant do anything with it samuray sword much better gives us more chances both for human and zombies

We aren't negative we are realistic. It would fail.
@Agreed with u Wasyl every single word..
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Post by koed dude Mon Sep 06, 2010 6:03 am

its not a fail before we try it maybe it will be awesome and fun ??remove if fail like mini gun it dosnt kill u to try it for a couple of days

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Post by W_a_S_y_L Mon Sep 06, 2010 6:43 am

koed dude wrote:zombies gets bigger chances lol and knock back i didnt mean like they should fly awey lol i ment a bit so we get a chance to

gives us more chances both for human and zombies
How the hell is this balanced?
Even if the knockback is tiny it still means zombies cant get near.

And btw a major flaw in your "plan".
Why the eff would i go huntin with a knife and risk getting infected if i can camp with my autosniper/machinegun and get 10x the damage ?
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Post by DarkNess Mon Sep 06, 2010 7:09 am

W_a_S_y_L wrote:
koed dude wrote:zombies gets bigger chances lol and knock back i didnt mean like they should fly awey lol i ment a bit so we get a chance to

gives us more chances both for human and zombies
How the hell is this balanced?
Even if the knockback is tiny it still means zombies cant get near.

And btw a major flaw in your "plan".
Why the eff would i go huntin with a knife and risk getting infected if i can camp with my autosniper/machinegun and get 10x the damage ?

I actually enjoy stabbing zombies :p especially the Nemesis Hehe.. but still this idea fails.
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Post by Necro Mon Sep 06, 2010 7:48 am

Every single people uses their weapons to hunt the zombies, why would I risk to be infected for slash the zombies?
I don't support this idea
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Post by Fagnatic Mon Sep 06, 2010 8:37 am

put it in the extra items list for 10 ammo packs.
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Post by Auch Mon Sep 06, 2010 8:45 am

im gonna have to say no this idea koed because i dont think that we should replace the knife with a sword like wasyl said.
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Post by i-am-evil-homer Mon Sep 06, 2010 10:25 am

i think somthing simular to the fun server would be good , where you can select between say 4 knifes , 1 will make you jump a little higher , 1 make you run a little bit faster etc etc , think that would work ok on ZP

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Post by koed dude Mon Sep 06, 2010 12:17 pm

well hehe it was worth the try but i still say it would be fun to hunt zombis with swords it makes the game more fun and not evrey one have to go people can still camp lol

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Post by ICantFly Wed Sep 22, 2010 8:09 am

I Have to admit that the point of idea to upgreade the knife is very good. Without that knockback stuff. It would be work like a basic knife LMB and RMB with a model of katana --===BUUUT===-- damage with weak attack 50-100 and RMB 250 with hs.

I do play a lot and i think it's worth to examine for real.
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Post by W_a_S_y_L Wed Sep 22, 2010 8:47 am

ICantFly wrote:I Have to admit that the point of idea to upgreade the knife is very good. Without that knockback stuff. It would be work like a basic knife LMB and RMB with a model of katana --===BUUUT===-- damage with weak attack 50-100 and RMB 250 with hs.

I do play a lot and i think it's worth to examine for real.

When you're sorrounded by 5 zombies I doubt you'd even have time to take out your knife, much less stab with it and aim for the head
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Post by xelef Wed Sep 22, 2010 8:53 am

Well, if you play with your knife it would pretty much only be vs a nemesis for "fun" or whatsoever, so in my call i would say keeping the regular knife and the players can add different versions of the skin as they suit, but adding additional powers to the regular knife is not good due to the fact that people wont use the knife so its a waste of Space on the servers to add more functions to a already useless item.
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Post by ICantFly Wed Sep 22, 2010 9:07 am

W_a_S_y_L wrote:
ICantFly wrote:I Have to admit that the point of idea to upgreade the knife is very good. Without that knockback stuff. It would be work like a basic knife LMB and RMB with a model of katana --===BUUUT===-- damage with weak attack 50-100 and RMB 250 with hs.

I do play a lot and i think it's worth to examine for real.

When you're sorrounded by 5 zombies I doubt you'd even have time to take out your knife, much less stab with it and aim for the head

U pick one really extreme situation as an example my friend. My point of view is less extreme. So - i am alone in the end of cave on fw1 (overplayed) and 5 zombies want's to suck my brain out, even with a kill bomb and mega reflex i have just a small chances to do anything.

Imagine now how often u use i knife at the end of a base tunnel when ak and duals doesnt kill a zobie. INFEEEECT - oh man he have 120 hp left ...

As a koed dude (hate u ^^) wrote about a hunting on zombies. YES !!! At the swarm mode when humans killed most of the zombies they will hunt the rest. I am sure there will be a lot of players that want to kill a zombie with a blade.

I think that idea of knife upgreade will be warmly welcomed by a high skilled players to exam.

Btw. i am really sure there is no problem to aim in the head.
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Post by W_a_S_y_L Wed Sep 22, 2010 9:12 am

Zombie HP 2000+

Human HP 100

A knife fight with zombies? Good luck with that
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Post by ICantFly Wed Sep 22, 2010 9:21 am

I wish to make a vote!

I dont care 7%
Yes 72%
No 21%

Democracy!

The trial version should make's the thing's str8. Like an ammo packs (EDIT - No clips) for 10 ap a long time ago rotflol.
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Post by koed dude Wed Sep 22, 2010 11:17 am

wasyl dont be negativ lol what u mean knife fight against zombi the idea is when u run out of shots and the zombi have a little hp left u strike him and hes done insted of getting infectet by a zombi with 127 hp left lol. and u can hun nemesis with it u can scratch ur back with a katana you ccan do anything even eat apples with it lol D´Very Happy the point is it will be more fun
i cant fly why u hate me Very Happy

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Post by xelef Wed Sep 22, 2010 11:25 am

@Koed dude.
Why waste even more space on a useless knife "improvement" cause if you want the servers to maybe cause slightly more lag and decreased effeciency on the servers due to a knife model with some dmg i say no anyways, i know if i get infected by a zombie with 100+ hp then i can flame at myself for not hitting the head with my weapon in the end but if i tried everything as using my m4a1 and deagle then there is nothing i can do, and if you miss the headshot with knife its just going to be a zombie with 50+ hp. so how much would that even do besides loosing a bit of hp on the zombie you still get infected.
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Post by koed dude Wed Sep 22, 2010 11:27 am

a little knife improvement wont make the whole server lagg lol its not like its the biggest change on the whole neondragon server so dont push it over the edge.

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Post by uhu Wed Sep 22, 2010 11:34 am

koed, all those opinions show a point wich is your idea is a fail.

Even tough in some situations the katana would help that's not enough when you look at the big picture.

Instead of being here banging you head against the wall just drop the issue.
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Post by koed dude Wed Sep 22, 2010 11:36 am

dude it would be awesome just think about it !!

it would take the game to a whole new lvl

we could atleas be able to buy it with ap's ?

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Post by W_a_S_y_L Wed Sep 22, 2010 11:48 am

koed dude wrote:the idea is when u run out of shots and the zombi have a little hp left u strike him and hes done insted of getting infectet by a zombi with 127 hp left lol.

I thought you wanted the game to be more balanced for both sides? o.o
This "Improvement" is a special treatment for humans for what I see.
Personally I would be pissed as a zombie - struggling through a rain of bullets from his machinegun, then his deagle, I hear *click click* - Finnaly he ran out of bullets, phew , just in time, I had only 150 hp left... I come near... and WTF!? He killed me with a knife? D:

Seriously... don't you see the fail of this idea? It's not a server where humans are supposed to pwn zombies, but it's a game where zombies and humans fight each other as even.
This knife would give humans ANOTHER advantage, and zombies would have even less chance of winning.
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Post by ICantFly Wed Sep 22, 2010 12:08 pm

Well i agree with xelef, the lagging sometimes is really annoying ... eh no more ... i didnt actualy think this way. TRUE

But i still take a position by a koed idea wich is very attractive in my opinion.

Xelef - i have seen nem killed by a knife. The player nick was - La Venerable De La Grande, a long time ago ... very oldschool player.

Koed i hate u because i know ur gaming apps for last 2 years m8 ^^

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