PN abusing his member powers under the name figueira

we were on the map jail_greytown as the cts decided to do a HNS.. everything went just fine until a guy named figueira started screaming you can't you can't, then he slayed the ENTIRE ct team for abuse. nD* Jail | nase was here and so were 29 other people they can all confirm this. after he did this he changed his name into PN, and left the server. I really find this unaccabtable since 1st off all he could have just said that we couldn't do a HNS. and 2nd we could do a HNS on the map jail_greytown. i really think there should be consequences for him.

Steam ID:
#27 "figueira" 224 STEAM_0:1:19108489 1 18:54 105 0
#27 "PN" 224 STEAM_0:1:19108489 1 19:40 157

proof:






got 4 more screenshots of him saying he will slay everyone if needed can also upload them and him slaying the rest of the team

Screenshot on the steam id is needed otherwise great report!

hajaka wrote:1st off all he could have just said that we couldn't do a HNS.

In the first screenshot it CLEARLY shows that he DID try to tell the CT's that they couldn't do it, but they didn't listen. Pn already talked to me about this and I'll let him tell his side of the story before I'll react with my opinion.

ok, I was playing a bit, I dont have many time to play, thats why my name was differentand I was offline at steam, to avoid spammers, whiners and play relaxed

the map was jail_greytown
http://www.fpsbanana.com/maps/114081

come on, as marksel said several times, use your common sence, every situation is a situation and you have to use your intelligence to decide the best for wich case

use your brains to decide in wich maps you can do hns or not, its not a rule to have hns on every map, and its not a rule not to do it

now comes the common sence part of the story: HOW IN THE WORLD CAN YOU PLAY HNS WITHOUT PLACES TO HIDE???

as you can see the map is freaking ass small, no hiding places, ofc you can say that you have a secret wall, why is that a secret wall when everyone knows of its existance and its a huge hole in the wall, not a small one, where cts can kill the ts easly.
There is also a dark area, its a small room where 2 cts can kill all the ts there, large hallway between the boxes, and not hard at hall to kill the ts inside.
2 potencial hiding spots. do you think that is enough to a all terrorist team?????


Besides of that the map is very very bright, only 3 exists from the cage area wich is 2.6666 cts for each dor wich is more than enough to kill everyone

the map has no conditions at all to play a hns

the only purpuse of hns on that map is to end the rund in a short amount of time and give frags to the cts


Therefore my believe is that I didnt abuse my membership, and I would have slayed the all team again

Just a small edit, sorry for my overreaction, and please dont come with shit like learn the rules and stuff like that because I play in the jb server for many time now, more time than anyone that was in the server at that time, and I believe that I know the rules.
Seriously the name that you gave to the thread is a little bit non inteligent, sorry if im harrassing but the fact is that im very pissed of atm. Dont you think that if I wanted to abuse my membership, is the same using the name nD* Fun | pn, figueira or whatever? wich matters is the steamid, and believe that my todays actions are recorded, not under the name of figeuira but under my steam id
I left the server, not to run of anyone, but because I was very very very very very pissed when nase slayed me, and I didnt want to do any thoughless action
srorry but I have to be rude. I fucking spammed the chat in capital letters that you couldnt do hns, apperently no ct likes to read the chat, I went to the gunroom doors to get your attention, you killed me, I cant give you my thoughts by telepathy, please I really hate lyars

pn wrote:ok, I was playing a bit, I dont have many time to play, thats why my name was differentand I was offline at steam, to avoid spammers, whiners and play relaxed

the map was jail_greytown
http://www.fpsbanana.com/maps/114081

come on, as marksel said several times, use your common sence, every situation is a situation and you have to use your intelligence to decide the best for wich case

use your brains to decide in wich maps you can do hns or not, its not a rule to have hns on every map, and its not a rule not to do it

now comes the common sence part of the story: HOW IN THE WORLD CAN YOU PLAY HNS WITHOUT PLACES TO HIDE???

as you can see the map is freaking ass small, no hiding places, ofc you can say that you have a secret wall, why is that a secret wall when everyone knows of its existance and its a huge hole in the wall, not a small one, where cts can kill the ts easly.
There is also a dark area, its a small room where 2 cts can kill all the ts there, large hallway between the boxes, and not hard at hall to kill the ts inside.
2 potencial hiding spots. do you think that is enough to a all terrorist team?????


Besides of that the map is very very bright, only 3 exists from the cage area wich is 2.6666 cts for each dor wich is more than enough to kill everyone

the map has no conditions at all to play a hns

the only purpuse of hns on that map is to end the rund in a short amount of time and give frags to the cts


Therefore my believe is that I didnt abuse my membership, and I would have slayed the all team again

Just a small edit, sorry for my overreaction, and please dont come with shit like learn the rules and stuff like that because I play in the jb server for many time now, more time than anyone that was in the server at that time, and I believe that I know the rules

To make a long story short: we should use our common sense to create a rule on our own. to not allow hns on this map even though it is allowed? There is no rule about not being able to do a HNS on a map with few hiding spots. You can hide on each map and each map will have a winner it's about the best hider. That is how hns works.
about the part where you said i would do it again. that's what concerns me, you abused this badly and you would just do it again?
Edit to your edit: i really don't think you realize that sometimes 5 idiots at once are screaming you can't do this you can't do that and since no one knew you were a member why would you bother listening?.

seriously think for your head, its not making a rule for your own, use your head, how can you play hns on a map where is impossible to hide, there is no defined rules on wich maps you can play hns or not, use your brain ffs
the hns on that maps end in one of this ways: cts are very very noobs and let them selfes die by the tmp and the mac 10, or it ends in 2 minutes with the cts winning

learn what abuse is and please give me valid and intelligent argumnts, you are saying the same thing over and over again. If anyone or any team in this case, in a willfull way takes advantage of any one or any team, I will slay right away

[quote="hajaka"]we were on the map jail_greytown as the cts decided to do a HNS.. everything went just fine until a guy named figueira started screaming you can't you can't, then he slayed the ENTIRE ct team for abuse. nD* Jail | nase was here and so were 29 other people they can all confirm this. after he did this he changed his name into PN, and left the server. I really find this unaccabtable since 1st off all he could have just said that we couldn't do a HNS. and 2nd we could do a HNS on the map jail_greytown. i really think there should be consequences for him.

what a fail..; first you said ,

hajaka wrote: everything went just fine until a guy named figueira started screaming you can't you can't

and then you say

hajaka wrote: I really find this unaccabtable since 1st off all he could have just said that we couldn't do a HNS

so that fails... ?

and pn didnt abuse , greytown is like tamama , it means that its so small that all ts are dead before the HNS started...

so , pn didnt do anything wrong imo

EDIT: more , your screenshots show me that he slayed 3 cts , thats not the ENTIRE team , so this ->

hajaka wrote:the ENTIRE team

is another fail... if you got more screenshots , show them , and if not... then its fail

[quote="Red-Phoenix"]

hajaka wrote:we were on the map jail_greytown as the cts decided to do a HNS.. everything went just fine until a guy named figueira started screaming you can't you can't, then he slayed the ENTIRE ct team for abuse. nD* Jail | nase was here and so were 29 other people they can all confirm this. after he did this he changed his name into PN, and left the server. I really find this unaccabtable since 1st off all he could have just said that we couldn't do a HNS. and 2nd we could do a HNS on the map jail_greytown. i really think there should be consequences for him.

what a fail..; first you said ,

hajaka wrote: everything went just fine until a guy named figueira started screaming you can't you can't

and then you say

hajaka wrote: I really find this unaccabtable since 1st off all he could have just said that we couldn't do a HNS

so that fails... ?

and pn didnt abuse , greytown is like tamama , it means that its so small that all ts are dead before the HNS started...

so , pn didnt do anything wrong imo

EDIT: more , your screenshots show me that he slayed 3 cts , thats not the ENTIRE team , so this ->

hajaka wrote:the ENTIRE team

is another fail... if you got more screenshots , show them , and if not... then its fail

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Ye was just making a quick report as i did 4 today anyway. you can do a hns on any map (repeating myself again you people just don't seem to get it)
also have you even looked at the entire report? did you read that it says at the bottom of the damn screenshots: got 4 more screenshots of him saying he will slay everyone if needed can also upload them and him slaying the rest of the team. also he confirmed by himself that he did slay the entire team, oh and those screenshots show 4 cts being slayed

ok, sorry for being unpolite, but it looks very much like me (we) are talking to a wall.
for you doesnt matter the reason, what matters is that I slayed many people in a short amount of time

i wont reply anymore to this topic until someone presents valid and different arguments
for my this issue is over

hajaka wrote:and since no one knew you were a member why would you bother listening?.

i have some problems with this,

so you are saying , that you wont listen to people if they are no member , so if they advice you in something , you dont listen? or if they tell you not to spam/fk/tk/go in vent w/e you wont listen?

its not because people are no members that you dont need to listen to them :s

Red-Phoenix wrote:

hajaka wrote:and since no one knew you were a member why would you bother listening?.

i have some problems with this,

so you are saying , that you wont listen to people if they are no member , so if they advice you in something , you dont listen? or if they tell you not to spam/fk/tk/go in vent w/e you wont listen?

its not because people are no members that you dont need to listen to them :s

what i'm saying is that there are always people screaming freekill or don't do this when infact they don't know the rules, i've never seen this guy's name before, so why would i expect him to know rules? also he said the hns was not allowed but it IS ALLOWED there is no rule against it!!

wrote: to not allow hns on this map even though it is allowed? There is no rule about not being able to do a HNS on a map with few hiding spots. You can hide on each map and each map will have a winner it's about the best hider. That is how hns works.

There is a rule about HnS, read down here:

http://neondragon.forumotion.co.uk/neondragonnet-uk-cs1-jailbreak-f5/jail-mod-guide-public-version-t2244.htm wrote:Hide and Seek
Like the name already says, in this game the prisoners try to hide somewhere and have to survive until the roundtime is 0:00.
The officers have to hunt the prisoners before the round ends.
The last survivor is granted a last request. (for example what round should be next.)
Rules:
This game should only be played on very large and complex maps and only once per map.
Minimum time for the prisoners to hide: 1 minute.
We will allow to use the vents for only this game. But it would be better to avoid using it by restricting it.
In case if you do that, don't forget to explain that part as well.
When the CT think they need to camp forever in HnS, warn em to hurry up and if they don't move at all. slay them.

As you can see, when a map isn't large and it isn't complex you can't play HnS.

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Now about your report:

I'm not fully sure, but the map isn't that large and it isn't that complex, there are simply not enough hiding spots (atleast, this is what I think). So, HnS shouldn't be played in this map in my opinion.

I'm not going to discuss any further, I cleared out my points, so did you guys, now just let the admins take care of the rest, please.

hajaka wrote:you can do a hns on any map

You're kidding me right? So you would do a hns day on ba_tamama? Use some common sense please.. Determine if you can do a hns on a certain map, don't just say "ooooh hns!". Some maps are just not good for it, period.

I'm more than 100% sure that pn would NEVER abuse his powers, let alone slay a CT team for fun and then leave. If he got pissed off bigtime, it's better to leave than to rage in-game. I don't see any real abusing in what he did, since the map fails a bit for hns, with no real hidingspots except 2 or 3. That's a very small amount on a max T team of 24. He did what he thought was right, and I can't say I blame him. I might've even done the same. Like I said, use some common sense to determine whether a hns day would be a good option.

In short, I don't see abuse in what pn did and if you want to discuss whether or not you can do a hns day on any map, make a separate thread for it.
Spx, thanks for the quote.

i play the jailbreak server about 6 hours a day if not more(yes, no life) this map is good for hns! we've played it loads of times! even with you there quick!!! you members are just always protecting each other.. screw it

Imo, every map that hasn't got a light-button sucks for HnS.
And that map, jail_greytown, is quite small and very very few hiding places, and doesn't got a light-button. Which makes that map suck for HnS day.

LuminCoB wrote:Imo, every map that hasn't got a light-button sucks for HnS.
And that map, jail_greytown, is quite small and very very few hiding places, and doesn't got a light-button. Which makes that map suck for HnS day.

QFT. playing HnS with 2-3 hiding spots, divide 24/3 and you get 8. 8 people at 1 spot.
Yay that is real fun. HnS on this map is only made by people who loves geting high
rate of kills without having to command..

Honestly.....
jail_greytown has 1 hiding room that is all no where else to hide its like trying to hide in a fucking white room, Im sure we did have a conversation before about which maps should have hns (members and admins)
But i do suppose pn shoul have explained why they shouldnt
anyway....

d4z0 I explained, I spammed the chat in capital letters
there were 2 members in the ct team, I think they should be able to think and decide if they can do it or not

pn did right. anyone who makes another assertion is just dumb.

I think everything has been said what had to be said. Therefor, closed before this turns into a real flame-fest.