Banned for 1 week. Reason: "Deny the holocaust"

And Darkness, why dont Mati show a screenshot as you showed me?

If he doesnt show that = He doesnt have proofs of banning me?

Dont teach me about my language when your language isnt better.

I know what your point is, making me angry, then I should start to say swearwords then I can get banned.

I will ignore you.

Florent wrote:And Darkness, why dont Mati show a screenshot as you showed me?

If he doesnt show that = He doesnt have proofs of banning me?

He said in the chat you posted that if you made an unban request he would post chat logs etc so i guess that will come when he gets on.

Florent wrote:Dont teach me about my language when your language isnt better.

I know what your point is, making me angry, then I should start to say swearwords then I can get banned.

I will ignore you.

double poster...

and not talking about your language , idc my english aint that well , im talking about you being sh*tty against people , wich will bring you to a ban. (watch the bold part in your text )

Until i see what mati has on him im taking florents side...

I hope so to.

d4zo, you have the chatt above, I wrote it earlier.

stop the double post , please , its so annoying.

Phoenix pleas stay out of this topic, this is none of your concerns.

DarkNess wrote:Phoenix pleas stay out of this topic, this is none of your concerns.

like you wish my Badr newb

if you don't like jews dont say it man ! 1 day you will get your ass kicked.. ! racism is a bad thing ! and 1 week ban for it.. ! is not enough !
.... and for your own sake.. dont run around... and say things like what you have written on this topic !...

Conex:
Where can you find that I hate jews? Tell me? Thats the problem we have in society, as fast you say jew, you are racist...



Darkness:
Isnt this racist? The pictures you posted.

http://neondragon.forumotion.co.uk/the-lounge-f3/gamebeat-the-picture-t3520.htm

If I would post a picture of a jew there, I would get banned not true?

Florent wrote:Conex:
Where can you find that I hate jews? Tell me? Thats the problem we have in society, as fast you say jew, you are racist...



Darkness:
Isnt this racist? The pictures you posted.

http://neondragon.forumotion.co.uk/the-lounge-f3/gamebeat-the-picture-t3520.htm

If I would post a picture of a jew there, I would get banned not true?

thats for laughing , we are not serious , who says im no "nigger" or darkness isn't? did you ever see a picture of us... no.

Red Phoenix:

Nigger is very bad word for a black, my best friend is black, people have called him nigger and he feels very insulted for that. So dont be to sure.

Kidding ?
Well then I can spam the ND server of saying Red Phoenix is stupid and then say im kidding? Is that funny? No...

Florent wrote:Conex:
Where can you find that I hate jews? Tell me? Thats the problem we have in society, as fast you say jew, you are racist...



Darkness:
Isnt this racist? The pictures you posted.

http://neondragon.forumotion.co.uk/the-lounge-f3/gamebeat-the-picture-t3520.htm

If I would post a picture of a jew there, I would get banned not true?

Im not even going to defend myself on this one, your commen sence level has sunk below average....

DarkNess:
You are welcome to explain, thats exactly what I mean. You make jokes of black but as fast anyone makes jokes about a jew, directly you are getting 100 bad titles on you...

Florent wrote:DarkNess:
You are welcome to explain, thats exactly what I mean. You make jokes of black but as fast anyone makes jokes about a jew, directly you are getting 100 bad titles on you...

Pleas tell me the 100 bad titles, the only bad title i have is discussing with you.

Anyhow if u want an explanation,
There is a diffrence between making a joke with a picture of a dog yelling "nigger" against another dog.
This is not racist its just a certain sence of humour, if it would have been a white man yelling nigger at a black men then it would have been racism, but have u ever seen animals be racist? Hmm i dont think so.

What you are now doing is trying to make other look bad because ur mad.
This is what we would call Childish behaviour.
I would suggest you to pull that stick out your ass and have fun sometime instead of spending the whole day whining for unban trying to make other look bad.

By the way Darkness.
I think I´ve got why you try to defend somebody whos unfair against people. It may have because I have no good relations with you since you kicked me once and we started to fight with words.

But be honest as D4zo, I have fight more with d4zo, but he is honest and tells the situation now, how it should be, he is not juding me of how I have been to him in private.

Florent wrote:By the way Darkness.
I think I´ve got why you try to defend somebody whos unfair against people. It may have because I have no good relations with you since you kicked me once and we started to fight with words.

But be honest as D4zo, I have fight more with d4zo, but he is honest and tells the situation now, how it should be, he is not juding me of how I have been to him in private.

Can you pleas show me where exactly i try to defend Mati?

Darkness:
Doesnt matter, its still forbidden, im not gonna report you, its like hitting your head on a stone and hoping that stone will get crashed.

People says often:
With that person you stay, you will automaticlly be as them.
I´ve discussed with you, and you may have influenced me to behave myself as a child. And I have too because you cant understand some things. Thats it.

YOu talk about humor?
Sure then people can send pictures of starving jews and say that its humor and people can say its funny because they look so small out.
Thats actually a serious thing, you cant make joke about that.

Nearly in every post you have posted.

First you was going to support me, you wanted to know which admin it was who banned me, when I told you, you suddenly turned your self against me directly.
You protect him and thinks that he is right, when he got no proofs of that I deni the holocaust.

Florent wrote:Nearly in every post you have posted.

First you was going to support me, you wanted to know which admin it was who banned me, when I told you, you suddenly turned your self against me directly.
You protect him and thinks that he is right, when he got no proofs of that I deni the holocaust.

Posting it is quite useless.
If you already had a chat with Mati and the outcome of that was that you will stay banned then we cant do much.
Mati is an admin which means he stands Above us i guess you have to accept his descission.

This is what i said after you posted that it was mati.

Now what do you expect me to say, UNBAN FLORENT HE HAS DONE NOTHING WRONG!!!
Ofcourse i wont say that because I DO NOT KNOW what exactly happend, so i cannot pick sides, i never said Mati did the right thing banning you untill you posted the 2 things we discussed earlier.

What i said above is just the truth, if you get banned by and admin and you even talk with that admin later there isnt much we can do here now can we?

I also said AT THIS POINT meaning that we can come back to it at the moment that Mati posted the proof.
Gosh your stubborn...

Closed.

Flaming....

Admins feel free to open again

Pretty aggressive unban request. When I talked with you, you seemed to accept it totally, and said like "I can understand you ". Now you are threaten me with revenge, that kinda makes me wonder. So please, stop talking in that threatening and harassive language, you also didn't make use of it when we talked. That's one of the basic requirements for a reasonable discussion.

Ok, so at first I want to post the ingame chatlog:

FlorenT* : hahaha javla jude (Translation: fucking jew)
IsmA! BRING ME MOW BACK! : florent antisemit?
FlorenT* : yes?
IsmA! BRING ME MOW BACK! : Florent how many die
IsmA! BRING ME MOW BACK! : in auschiwts
FlorenT* : ehh u mean whole holocaust?
FlorenT* : not 8 milion
IsmA! BRING ME MOW BACK! : how many
FlorenT* : max 2 milion
FlorenT* : and those my illness and other things
FlorenT* : not gased
FlorenT* : there are big proofs
FlorenT* : that they didnt get killed
IsmA! BRING ME MOW BACK! : my book say 8 million jews
FlorenT* : as i said
FlorenT* : zyklon b
FlorenT* : is blue
IsmA! BRING ME MOW BACK! : and my teacher say if u deny holocaut
IsmA! BRING ME MOW BACK! : u nazi
FlorenT* : the gas chaimbers doesnt have blue colour
FlorenT* : 1996 a sing in asucwithz was removed where it said that 6 milion died
FlorenT* : now suddenly its 8 milion
IsmA! BRING ME MOW BACK! : u hate jew florent?
FlorenT* : i dony hate the religion
FlorenT* : i hate what they do

As you see, he wrote antisemestic messages (especially "fucking jew") which is prohibited by the server rules, as well as hating to any other people or groupings. That alone is on the boarder for a ban for racism.
The next, and way worser thing was the holocaust denial. Trivializing it, like he did, also counts as "holocaust denial", as you can read for example on wikipedia, and get prosecuted criminally in many countries with high penalties. My own opinion on this topic is not relevant here, the main thing is, that he made racistic statements, and fullfilled a criminal act on the server. That would make it even valid for a permban imo.

Also, he got banned already once before for harassment.

I agree with mati now that looks like racism to me