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Post by DarkNess Thu Feb 18, 2010 8:34 am

So i was wondering,
How do you guys think about death and what happens after death?
Do you believe in reincarnation or do you believe in heaven/hell?

I myself believe in a very unique thing,
I believe that when you die you will become a sort of spirit and you can go wherever you want.
When you die your spirit will leave ur body and release itself.

Although you cant do that forever so there must be more at it when u die.

Now what are your visions upon this subject?

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Post by XeoN Thu Feb 18, 2010 8:36 am

Hmmm, Depends on your behaviour Smile

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Post by DarkNess Thu Feb 18, 2010 8:36 am

XeoN wrote:Hmmm, Depends on your behaviour Smile

Do you mean like, if u behave bad you go to hell and if u behave good you go to heaven?
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Post by XeoN Thu Feb 18, 2010 8:39 am

DarkNess wrote:
XeoN wrote:Hmmm, Depends on your behaviour Smile

Do you mean like, if u behave bad you go to hell and if u behave good you go to heaven?


Yes Very Happy

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Post by DarkNess Thu Feb 18, 2010 8:42 am

XeoN wrote:
DarkNess wrote:
XeoN wrote:Hmmm, Depends on your behaviour Smile

Do you mean like, if u behave bad you go to hell and if u behave good you go to heaven?


Yes Very Happy

Can you tell a bit more why u think that?
Is it because of religion or just your thoughts?

Sorry for asking much, i just tend to find this a very interesting subject.
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Post by KoD Thu Feb 18, 2010 8:44 am

if you die you will turn into some kinda ghost. But..
If a new round starts you respawn!
Unless your in deathmatch.

Nah joking.

I dont believe in shit like heaven and hell [ the song is great btw, from black sabbath/dio ]

I don't believe that if you life good you will go to heaven.
I don't believe much of anything that has 'something better' if you die.

And im not gonna worry about it, because we all will know 1 day
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Post by Zeeta Thu Feb 18, 2010 8:46 am

Well.... I'm not really sure about that... But i've been thinking alot of the reincarnation. But as i said im not sure, dont really belive in the heaven/hell thing.
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Post by Arnold Schwarzenegger Thu Feb 18, 2010 9:47 am

To Allah is our return:

At the time when the Angel of Death will comes and takes your soul, he Angel of Death will be accompanied by other angels aswell, if you were a good person they will come as shining beautifull persons (maybe a person you know for example so you wont be afraid at that time) your soul will leave your body like a drip of water leaves a cup of water however if u were bad and did bad things he will come like a fearsum creature and rip your soul away from your body (imagine the pain) After that they will name you on how you got named back in the worldy life for example if you were good and people knew you as the Righteous or the compassionate they will name you the same, vice versa if you were a bad person. They will go to every every heaven (there are 7, 7 is the heaven where the Beloved prophet Muhammad pbuh is, people who are VERY close to God are there and if im correct all other prophets will be there too if not may God forgive me for this tiny mistake) at the end you will come to God, He will say: Bring him back into the earth for thats what i created him from and thats where he will return until the Day of Judgment where every living soul will be resurrected to be judged by the Most Mercifull, the Almighty. In the grave the soul will be questioned by 2 angels. Who is your God? What is the book you believed in? Who is the prophet, if you answer them good.. You will stay in one of the Gardens of Heaven and say: O my lord, let the day of Judgment come so I can be judged. However if you answer them all wrong you will be punished and you will stay in one of the craters of hell saying: O my lord dont let the day of judgment come. (this is just a few things that I know but there are so many. YOUTUBE it, there are a lot of muslim scholars on youtube) This worldy life is nothing, the hereafter is what everything is about.

This worldy life is not ment for us, its ment for those who dont believe, the hereafter is for us (the believers). You can always ask me more about Islam I will try to tell you as much as I know
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Post by Mizurri Thu Feb 18, 2010 10:02 am

Lol here it comes: (i fail sometimes on english)

You die..

Your spirit will be taken from the angel Izra'iel
And you will get asked a few questions by the 2 angels:Nakir en Munkar
(there could be more but dunno)

Who is your God
Who is your Profet
What is your Book

As Muslim we have to answer

Allah
Hz.Mohammed S.A.V
Kurani Keriem ( saying it in turkish )

after that, you will have to wait in your grave..
If you was an good person, it would be like it was 1sec, and very good and stuff

but if you was an bad person, it is like someone is holding your troath
and it will be like an small hell.

after the last day of earth comes.(Yawm al-Qīyāmah)
the angel Israfiel will blow on his bazuin (or something)

The Mountains will dance, and the Oceans will take everything down
Mothers will drop down there childeren, to save there own.
people make an huge chaos and at the end everything will get killed
and the world was again like it was before..just water..

this counts also for the other creatures on earth,(djins)
they are invisable for us, but when people "try to call ghosts up"
They appear, so watch out with that one>.>

The shahied's will get inmidetly there place in heaven
together with some of the sahabe

The others will get there book of life.
and they will see if they were good or bad on earth
(couse in the eye of an muslim world is just an test)

If you get the book on your right hand you safed
but if its left...your fucked up mate..

God sees everything..He sees you stealing, Harrasing,wasting time,Thinking about bad stuff,eating while Ramadan, kicking an plant
making fun of people, bullying..

and every little detail will get talked about..

Every pray you didnt do, will be 75 years in hell(waw alot?)
no, couse the heaven is for ever..

your prays counts more as kid, couse your a little forcing yourself to
and you always have alot more to do,
couse old people are with retire ment...

God also will ask you,
Why did you waste your time on playing cs
or why did you looked at youporn
or why you didnt read an book..
why you was on drugs..

there are 7 hells and 7 heavens..

I dont want to say what happens in hell
but im pretty sure that unfortunatly some people will go
also some on the nD forums..

hell could be 100000 years
or 1000000000 years
or 100000000000000000000000000000000 years
(got teached that.)
"why so much danggg"
heaven is for ever like i said...


Dont worry God is very good,

at the end everyone will go to heaven..
but you will see the scars if someone have been in hell
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Post by SuomiKukka Thu Feb 18, 2010 10:02 am

I dont believe in shit like heaven and hell <- Not tolerated.

This worldy life is not ment for us, its ment for those who dont believe, the hereafter is for us (the believers). <- as well this is some harsh comment.

...................

My belief is that nothing happens, so Im taking now as much as I can.
When you die youll become a part again of the great cycle of nature you became. This is the great cycle of nature -> big bang - particles - gas - black holes - stars - nebulae - smaller stars - planets - life - death - planet - star death - blackhole - end of time - big rip. There are lot of missing this pattern, but it takes many hours to write it down, this is the simplest pattern I could make that makes sence.

So like I said, you die, your gone thats it.

Some people take relief to their life from religion.
Some people take relief to their life from supernatural events.
Some people take relief to their life from science, like I do.

But this all doesn't matter you can be wrong, I can be wrong. This is the gamble of life what happens after life to all of us.

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Post by Mizurri Thu Feb 18, 2010 10:05 am

|SuvI| wrote:I dont believe in shit like heaven and hell <- Not tolerated.

This worldy life is not ment for us, its ment for those who dont believe, the hereafter is for us (the believers). <- as well this is some harsh comment.

...................

My belief is that nothing happens, so Im taking now as much as I can.
When you die youll become a part again of the great cycle of nature you became. This is the great cycle of nature -> big bang - particles - gas - black holes - stars - nebulae - smaller stars - planets - life - death - planet - star death - blackhole - end of time - big rip. There are lot of missing this pattern, but it takes many hours to write it down, this is the simplest pattern I could make that makes sence.

So like I said, you die, your gone thats it.

Some people take relief to their life from religion.
Some people take relief to their life from supernatural events.
Some people take relief to their life from science, like I do.

But this all doesn't matter you can be wrong, I can be wrong. This is the gamble of life what happens after life to all of us.

Oh Suvi, dont take this offensive, but may Allah help you..
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Post by Arnold Schwarzenegger Thu Feb 18, 2010 10:09 am

This worldy life is not ment for us, its ment for those who dont believe, the hereafter is for us (the believers). <- as well this is some harsh comment.

...................

Why do you think that this is an harsh comment ?



Malikil mawt = Angel of Death



Islam:



Dont fool yourself, dont believe the media, terrorists arent muslim. This all is a complot targeting muslims and Islam, Islam cannot be destroyed, it will excist for 1000 years but not for another 1000 years (Judgment day) Most of the minor signs of Judgment day have already occured, now we wait for the major signs (return of Jesus(Isa) pbuh) for example
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Post by KoD Thu Feb 18, 2010 12:00 pm

I don't want to harass anybody.
But in the story's I read the only thing I can make up is that you guys are fed with fear.

Just fed up with fear so you will believe, and believe he's good.
but ok its about the afterlife not religion.

and about this: the hereafter is what everything is about.

This worldy life is not ment for us, its ment for those who dont believe, the hereafter is for us (the believers).

I like you mackey but how can you ever say this?
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Post by W_a_S_y_L Thu Feb 18, 2010 1:01 pm

Hmm I believe in reincarnation :>
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Post by DarkNess Thu Feb 18, 2010 1:10 pm

W_a_S_y_L wrote:Hmm I believe in reincarnation :>

Reincarnation as in humanlike or an animal or random?
And will you remember anything out of this life?
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Post by XeoN Thu Feb 18, 2010 1:24 pm

Hmm Guys i will like to show you this, what Saitaan wrote, whos the devil and hates allah can makes you do bad things.


DARK LETTER





PAY ATTENTION TO THE P.S. at the end!!



Letter from the Devil

This can really make you think. It actually made me really

mad while I was reading it, but it made me realize some things.

Plus,I had to send it because of the P.S.



This is
deep... and I wasn't

going to forward or share it, but that

last line... you'll see.


A LETTER TO YOU FROM SATAN

I saw you yesterday as you began your daily chores.



You awoke without kneeling to pray. As a matter of fact, you

didn't even bless your meals, or

pray before going to bed last

night. You are so unthankful, I like that about you.



I cannot tell you how glad I am that you have not changed your

way of living, Fool, you are mine.

Remember, you and I have been going steady for years, and

I still don't love you yet.

As a matter of fact, I hate you, because I hate God.





He kicked me out of heaven, and I'm

going to use you as long as

possible to pay him back.



You see, Fool, GOD LOVES YOU and HE has great plans in

store for you.



But you have yielded your life to me, and I'm going to make

your life a living hell.

That way, we'll be together twice. This will really hurt God.



Thanks to you, I'm really showing Him who's boss in your life

with all of the good times we've had.



We have been watching dirty movies,

cursing people out, stealing, lying,

being hypocritical, fornicating, overeating,

telling dirty jokes, gossiping,

being judgmental, back stabbing people,

disrespecting adults, and those in leadership positions,

no respect for the Mosque, bad attitudes.



SURELY you don't want to give all this up.



Come on, Fool, let's burn together forever. I've got some

hot plans for us. This is just a letter of appreciation from me to you.

I'd like to say 'THANKS' for letting me use you for most

of your foolish life.



You are so gullible, I laugh at you. When you are tempted

to sin, you give in.



HA HA HA, you make me sick.



Sin is beginning to take its toll on your life. You look 20 years

older, and now, I need new blood.

So go ahead and teach some children how to sin.



All you have to do is smoke, get drunk or drink while under-aged,

cheat, gamble, gossip, fornicate, and live being as selfish as

possible.



Do all of this in the presence of children and they will

do it too. Kids are like that.

Well, Fool, I have to let you go for now. I'll be back in a

couple of seconds to tempt you again. If you were smart, you


would
run somewhere, confess your sins, and live for God with

what little bit of life that you have left.



It's not my nature to warn anyone, but to be your age and still

sinning, it's becoming a bit ridiculous. Don't get me

wrong, I still hate you.



IT'S JUST THAT YOU'D MAKE A BETTER FOOL FOR ALLAH



P.S. If you love me, you won't share this

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Post by DarkNess Thu Feb 18, 2010 1:41 pm

Not offence meant but:

What is the diffrence between Allah and God except for the fact that they belong to diffrent religions?
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Post by Arnold Schwarzenegger Thu Feb 18, 2010 1:49 pm

DarkNess wrote:Not offence meant but:

What is the diffrence between Allah and God except for the fact that they belong to diffrent religions?

Its actually the same, Allah is arabic
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Post by DarkNess Thu Feb 18, 2010 1:50 pm

Mr.Mackey wrote:
DarkNess wrote:Not offence meant but:

What is the diffrence between Allah and God except for the fact that they belong to diffrent religions?

Its actually the same, Allah is arabic

So for your religion Allah is the one that created everything made the humans etc?
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Post by Arnold Schwarzenegger Thu Feb 18, 2010 1:52 pm

KoD wrote:I don't want to harass anybody.
But in the story's I read the only thing I can make up is that you guys are fed with fear.

Just fed up with fear so you will believe, and believe he's good.
but ok its about the afterlife not religion.

and about this: the hereafter is what everything is about.

This worldy life is not ment for us, its ment for those who dont believe, the hereafter is for us (the believers).

I like you mackey but how can you ever say this?

No, i think u missunderstood.

In this life i ment our situation right now, look at the islamic world.. how fucked up everything is, wars, corruption etc. Look at the western world. People live in peace etc. Our reward is in heaven, for our good deeds etc. Allah says that we need educate ourself, build up a future. This life is just one big test, a test that looks how faithfull you are.. doing good deeds etc. for this the reward is in the afterlife..
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Post by Arnold Schwarzenegger Thu Feb 18, 2010 1:53 pm

DarkNess wrote:
Mr.Mackey wrote:
DarkNess wrote:Not offence meant but:

What is the diffrence between Allah and God except for the fact that they belong to diffrent religions?

Its actually the same, Allah is arabic

So for your religion Allah is the one that created everything made the humans etc?

Yes indeed, He made the heavens and the earth, he made us from sand (aarde) with blood.

There are no differences in Judaism Christiany and Islam, only those who changed it for their own good
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Post by XeoN Thu Feb 18, 2010 1:57 pm

Makey do you beleive in "Allah" ? i Do Because im a muslim, and in Norway they call me lars Wink Btw im in uK its Mohammed Very Happy

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Post by W_a_S_y_L Thu Feb 18, 2010 2:14 pm

The sort of reincarnation depending on your present personality.

If you were for example a good person, you will reincarnate in something good (Like lions, birds, even humans)

But if youre a bad person, youll reincarnate as a pig, rat, bug etc.

And (At least i think so) you wouldn't remember your past life
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Post by Arnold Schwarzenegger Thu Feb 18, 2010 2:16 pm

XeoN wrote:Makey do you beleive in "Allah" ? i Do Because im a muslim, and in Norway they call me lars Wink Btw im in uK its Mohammed Very Happy

Im muslim Elhamdullah (thank God), you are in norway lars and in uk mohammad ? im confused.
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Post by XeoN Thu Feb 18, 2010 2:48 pm

Mr.Mackey wrote:
XeoN wrote:Makey do you beleive in "Allah" ? i Do Because im a muslim, Wink Btw my name is Mohammed Very Happy

Im muslim Elhamdullah (thank God), you are in norway lars and in uk mohammad ? im confused.

Hmm Really Im kidding Very Happy Whats your name Very Happy My real name is Mohammed Very Happy

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