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Post by Florent Sun Aug 22, 2010 5:17 pm

Yo people,
First time I started to command now after a 5 weeks vacation, it started all in trouble directly, I did a confusing command again, as we now CTs job in JB is to get Ts confused and kill them, so I said the command "Simon says all CTs crouch and freeze", this was going to CTs only, so I killed all Ts who crouched and freeze, 4 guys.

What I know about this, this is allowed to point somebody on command, like they use to say, Simon says XXX get back to the cage.

But I need answer from somebody with more experience or admin, is this allowed?


Thank you and take care!
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Post by kami (GER] Sun Aug 22, 2010 5:36 pm

its allowed.
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Post by SultaN Sun Aug 22, 2010 5:55 pm

You are not commanding the T's. Your command was against the CT's.
And if you say it in a proper way withouth t's going: "What?" Then I think this should be allowed.
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I take that back. I agree from what marksel said.
You're command is for the CT's. So the T's who do it can't get punished because they didn't fail doing a command that you didn't tell him to do.


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Post by Marksel Sun Aug 22, 2010 7:31 pm

Wether this is allowed or not depends on your earlyer command, if your command is simon says everyone get into the cage, and then you say simon says all CT crouch and freeze, and the T's crouch and freeze, you can't kill the T's, since they are still in the cage and they were not commanded not to crouch and freeze.

Since the command is directed at CT, so is the reason to punish, so you can't punish T's for doing and/or not doing the command you tell the CT's.

You can however allow this by commanding every T to jump and keep jumping, then saying this. T's crouch and freeze -> stop jumping -> stopped doing the command they should be doing -> die
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Post by Mati Sun Aug 22, 2010 8:17 pm

Marksel is right, it depends on the previous command, if there is no, or the previous command is already completed, they can do what they like until a new simon says command is given (unless they don't obey a non-simon order).

Examples:
"Simon says crouch and stay crouching"
"Simon says, CTs, jump around"
-> Terrorists who stand up can get killed

"Simon says jump"
Everyone jumped.
"Simon says, CTs, crouch and stay crouched"
Some people crouch.
--> There was no new simon says order given to them, nor was there a non-simon says order on which they obeyed, so no kill.
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Post by StevenN Mon Aug 23, 2010 3:10 am

But, for example:

If you say :

Simon says crouch and freeze.
Simon says person-x go to back to the cage.

After the command for person-x , the command for crouch and freeze is over for everyone?
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Post by Mati Mon Aug 23, 2010 4:36 am

In my opinion not, because the simon says order is directed to the specific person, and not to all terrorists, therefore "crouch and freeze" is still active for the rest of the terrorists (but not for "person-x").

Therefore, CTs should say: "Simon says person-x go back to the cage and crouch and freeze", otherwise person-x can run around while the others have to crouch & freeze -> special treatment?
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Post by Florent Mon Aug 23, 2010 6:07 am

Okay guys, thank you for your answers, especially Marksel and Mati who explained it well.

You may close this thread if you want, I got my answer, thank you guys!
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