combining games

so regit, 2click, samstein, nino and i were having a discussion about combining games. Is the rule like: you cannot combine any 2 games with each other or is it only for some games specific ones, or (as i thought) is it only with smith/simon says combination?

I think it's only simon says combines, etc simon says combined with last reaction.. Maybe I'm wrong, correct me if I'am

That was the outcome of a vote in a meeting.

Mati wrote:4) Should it be allowed to play games together with simon says (e.g. playing simon says combined with last reaction)? No, because games inside games shouldn't be possible.

(http://neondragon.forumotion.co.uk/-f5/-t4017.htm)

Simon says is only an example. It goes for all games. See the last Sentence: Games inside games shouldn''t be possible.
That is why i think it goes for all games.
See also this quote from the meeting:

Pukata <3: but now we voted
Pukata <3: u cant play a game inside a game
Pukata <3: think its clear now

(http://privatepaste.com/24272f2c8e)

That is why i think it goes for all games

edit:
wow, i have such a clear point, that i wrote it twice

x-regit-x wrote:That was the outcome of a vote in a meeting.

Mati wrote:4) Should it be allowed to play games together with simon says (e.g. playing simon says combined with last reaction)? No, because games inside games shouldn't be possible.

(http://neondragon.forumotion.co.uk/-f5/-t4017.htm)

Simon says is only an example. It goes for all games. See the last Sentence: Games inside games shouldn''t be possible.
That is why i think it goes for all games.
See also this quote from the meeting:

Pukata <3: but now we voted
Pukata <3: u cant play a game inside a game
Pukata <3: think its clear now

(http://privatepaste.com/24272f2c8e)

That is why i think it goes for all games

Playing a game inside a game is diffrent then combining games.
if you use simon says to play a race it´s a game inside a game. but if you combine first reaction with last reaction it's simply a combination of games.

oempaloempa wrote:

x-regit-x wrote:That was the outcome of a vote in a meeting.

Mati wrote:4) Should it be allowed to play games together with simon says (e.g. playing simon says combined with last reaction)? No, because games inside games shouldn't be possible.

(http://neondragon.forumotion.co.uk/-f5/-t4017.htm)

Simon says is only an example. It goes for all games. See the last Sentence: Games inside games shouldn''t be possible.
That is why i think it goes for all games.
See also this quote from the meeting:

Pukata <3: but now we voted
Pukata <3: u cant play a game inside a game
Pukata <3: think its clear now

(http://privatepaste.com/24272f2c8e)

That is why i think it goes for all games

Playing a game inside a game is diffrent then combining games.
if you use simon says to play a race it´s a game inside a game. but if you combine first reaction with last reaction it's simply a combination of games.

From what mati told me this only counts for simon says or games like simon says, example smith says. This was made to avoid constant simon says.
U can combine first reaction with last reaction, its the same when i play last reaction in the table game. So it only counts for games like simon says.

Taken from the meeting:
Mati: ##### VOTE: Should it be allowed to play games together with simon says (e.g. playing simon says combined with last reaction) #####

A: Yes, that should be allowed
B: No, that shouldn't be allowed
C: Only when it get's started as a seperate, reasonable game ("evil simon says")

And most voted B

I asked Mati some days ago and he said its only for Simon/Smith says to prevent playing it too much.

Ok, now it's clear for me. Thank you for clearing me (and others) up^^

oh , i have another question wich follows this one,

so , My favourite jailbreak trick is this:
(its a simon game)

mmkay were going to play a confusion game , that means ..etc.. and then i say , Simon says Jump! and i kill everyone whos crouching, is this allowed as it is a trick or...?

I don't see why it shouldn't be.
You are not combing any games, it's simular to saying last reaction jump while playing simon says, it's simply a trick.

Now that my question's been answered i have another one:

Why can't we combine games with Simon- Smith says? What good use is it for ANYONE to not being able to combine those games? I really don't see the point in it as rules should mainly be there to keep order. Not to forbid games, which is nothing wrong with. really did you members/admins even think when you voted for the not combining simon- smith says with any other game, if so i'd like to hear why you voted for this.

This is because in the past, everything was played in combination with simon says, every single thing.
Simon says was being abused too much so they could easily kill off T's without warning.

Also, combining it with simon says screws over the essence of the game you combine it with. For example: Last reaction, the point of last reaction is that the last one to react dies, not the first one to get tricked.

You still can see where this got us. Very often when a commander starts a new game, he says: "On my deagle shot, you can start". Then he says: "Go!" in the mic and/or shoots with another weapon. (I still think the ones who got tricked by this fake start shouldn't get killed, only warned. Because that is mostly not the intention of the game to trick people with a fake start.)

If you don't believe, we discussed and thought about it, here is the log of the meeting: http://privatepaste.com/24272f2c8e (We also talked about lots of other things. The discussion about simon says is part of the first half i think.)

Marksel wrote:Also, combining it with simon says screws over the essence of the game you combine it with. For example: Last reaction, the point of last reaction is that the last one to react dies, not the first one to get tricked.

They are still tricking in last reaction, by combining it with first reaction. This has totally no use. It only makes the rounds longer, because hardly anybody fails this trick.

x-regit-x wrote:You still can see where this got us. Very often when a commander starts a new game, he says: "On my deagle shot, you can start". Then he says: "Go!" in the mic and/or shoots with another weapon. (I still think the ones who got tricked by this fake start shouldn't get killed, only warned. Because that is mostly not the intention of the game to trick people with a fake start.)

If you don't believe, we discussed and thought about it, here is the log of the meeting: http://privatepaste.com/24272f2c8e (We also talked about lots of other things. The discussion about simon says is part of the first half i think.)

Marksel wrote:Also, combining it with simon says screws over the essence of the game you combine it with. For example: Last reaction, the point of last reaction is that the last one to react dies, not the first one to get tricked.

They are still tricking in last reaction, by combining it with first reaction. This has totally no use. It only makes the rounds longer, because hardly anybody fails this trick.

only 7/17 people voted? maybe recall a vote on this when there's more members? :\

combing games was removed mainly because people done it in simon says

Like Simon Says "Last reaction crouch" got confusing for so many people and that command was used alot, But im sure things like races should be allowed

Combining is only forbidden together with simon says. The new jail guide will be released on wednesday, it's clear inside there then, as well as most of the other questions.

Fake Starts-> "We're having a race start on MY Deagle Shot and NO1 Elses" Then say in MIC " GO" (without shooting Deagle) = Valid Trick To Kill?

Explanation-> The T CLEARLY Cheats to try to start the race BEFORE any1 else, and he tries to win the race UNFAIRLY.............

It's always been like that (i think)? and i ALWAYS do it with races or other crap, e.g. lava Day or Football or race or watever :p

LTUMax JB wrote:Fake Starts-> "We're having a race start on MY Deagle Shot and NO1 Elses" Then say in MIC " GO" (without shooting Deagle) = Valid Trick To Kill?

Explanation-> The T CLEARLY Cheats to try to start the race BEFORE any1 else, and he tries to win the race UNFAIRLY.............

It's always been like that (i think)? and i ALWAYS do it with races or other crap, e.g. lava Day or Football or race or watever :p

You can not see it like that. The Terrorist does NOT cheat on purpose to win the race unfairly. He tries to do a fair race. But because of commanders who tries to trick people all the time, they start too early.
Once again, in my opinion they should only get warned, not killed. You should give them the possibility to do a fair race without tricking.

I do not understand why you always have to trick them. Why can't you just do it normal. Why always fake starts. Because you get more kills with it? This is still as you would play simon says. This can't be fun anymore.

I always trick, people should know it if they dont, then they should be quick-witted. If they are a bit slow (im not taking the piss lol) and move forward, a REASONABLE amount, i kill them if they literally take 1-2 steps and move back, then i usually dont kill them..... The Greedy FragWhores kill those, and then i have to apologize to them for some other CT killing them :p