Rebel System [JB]

Hi people!

I was wondering, if there is possible for a system that I call the rebel system.

You know that some servers got /rank then they show the rank.

I was thinking to make the game more exiting, and more fun and harder, this would be maybe a good thing.

The system is that, there is a kind of rank of every terrorists, then when you as T types /rank it will show the must wanted or sucessful terrorist , the statistik should be counted of how many cts he have killed and assists (maybe i stab first and then somebudy else kills, then I have an assist (spelling?))

It got many positive effects, like it make the game harder for CT, better control from CT side.

I havent think so much about it, if you have negative effects with this, sure write them.


The second one is that there should be a rank for the CTs too, the best police (with kills of Ts when they fail).
But this second thing can have many negative effects, what about the FKs? There will be people who will freekilling so much because they want to reach the top.

But the first one with must sucessful terrorist would be fun. It will be more exiting game then.

Big problem is, is this possible?
What do you people think?

Have a nice day!

I think it's possible to create, although I'm not someone who's able to do that. I like your first idea, it's a good idea and CT's need to be more carefull.

For your second idea, I don't like to see it, sorry to say it, but there will just be too much freekillers. A variation could be a vote on the forums, the best commander of the month, people can vote on it? If some people give some suggestions in such a topic a vote will be added and then the voting starts?

Good idea with the Ts because it will get them to act more dangerous.

But for the CTs its a bad idea because they will kill so many Ts they can.
Fx. last reaction or saw game, all the CTs wanna kill the looser, which might lead to freekill etc.

But good idea for the Ts.

Florent wrote:I was thinking to make the game harder

In my opinion it's already pretty hard commanding 24 terrorists with a quite bad CT team and even with a good CT team it's still hard.

Florent wrote:The second one is that there should be a rank for the CTs too, the best police (with kills of Ts when they fail).

Almost everyone is already a fragwhore(sorry for that word) in the CT teams every time so it just would support the egoists-tour of the poeple and maybe the freekilling part too.

Florent wrote:The system is that, there is a kind of rank of every terrorists, then when you as T types /rank it will show the must wanted or sucessful terrorist , the statistik should be counted of how many cts he have killed and assists (maybe i stab first and then somebudy else kills, then I have an assist (spelling?))

Like I already said, this will just make it harder than it already is for the CT team because the terrorists just want frags and start to riot all the time because they think they would be the best if they lead the list.


I have collected those experiences on my old ns times where such a rank system was invented after some weeks on my favourite server(german) and everything went worse over time pretty much and after not even 1 year everyone left the server one by one, the admins tried to reactive the server again with a fixed version of the ranking system and later without any ranking system and nothing helped, no one came back, me neither because I started to play cs again(after break of 3 years) because this server went down and I lost the interest in playing ns so I totally would dissuade inventing such a system because I only made bad experiences with it and I can already tell you that it will push the gameplay down in a massive, promised. So please let it stay as it is.

nase wrote:

Florent wrote:I was thinking to make the game harder

In my opinion it's already pretty hard commanding 24 terrorists with a quite bad CT team and even with a good CT team it's still hard.

hey, if u got a bodyguard like me its no more hard u command and punish while i am watching ur back. x) and everything is fine

this is what i want in some kind of rank system
T
1.1"how many times got last request"
1.2"how many cts killed in last request"
1.3"most played last request"
1.4"Favorite weapon" >(the Weapon u killed the most cts with)
1.5 "How many succeful Rebels" ( T won a day without losing more then 60% of the Team)
1.5"How many days Rioted without more then 20% of the team die"

cts
2.1"How many succeful days" (how many days u won as ct)
2.2"How many days without any riot" (how many days that no ct died)
2.3"how many last request won against a T"
2.4"How many losses against a T in Last request"
2.5"How many times u got killed by knife"
2.6"How many times u got killed by nade"
2.7"How many times u got killed by any weapon" (Doesnt include knife and nade)
2.8"Favorite weapon" (look at 1.4)

goodjob emziek.

nase:
As you know the point and the mission of Ts are to escape, and CT to guard. Thats not funny if you have 24 Ts watching them and always sucess.

Then noobs (in JB as CT) should not join the CT team...

Florent wrote:Then noobs (in JB as CT) should not join the CT team...

That's not the problem, if u even have a good team with u you will fail easier then you already fail as CT and they are not successful all the time at all, on the contrary, on nearly every map I see stats(wins CT : wins T) like 8:1 but when u still think it could be useful, please, I mentioned my points and hope some other guys see that like me.

It is an achievment idea..have been disscussed.

http://neondragon.forumotion.co.uk/ideas-and-projects-f4/achievement-t2598.htm

It has been mentioned before but we thought cts would fk more for a rank
But your idea is good

The more kills you get as t the higher you are in most wanted list xD

Emziek wrote:this is what i want in some kind of rank system
T
1.1"how many times got last request"
1.2"how many cts killed in last request"
1.3"most played last request"
1.4"Favorite weapon" >(the Weapon u killed the most cts with)
1.5 "How many succeful Rebels" ( T won a day without losing more then 60% of the Team)
1.5"How many days Rioted without more then 20% of the team die"

cts
2.1"How many succeful days" (how many days u won as ct)
2.2"How many days without any riot" (how many days that no ct died)
2.3"how many last request won against a T"
2.4"How many losses against a T in Last request"
2.5"How many times u got killed by knife"
2.6"How many times u got killed by nade"
2.7"How many times u got killed by any weapon" (Doesnt include knife and nade)
2.8"Favorite weapon" (look at 1.4)

Awesome ideas there, good job listing them =)
Howevering, this is just a stat list (still would be fun to have), ranking this would be another thing, but can always be done.

Chillz wrote:It is an achievment idea..have been disscussed.

http://neondragon.forumotion.co.uk/ideas-and-projects-f4/achievement-t2598.htm

There is a HUGE differance between an achievement system and a ranking system.


@ nase:
I think T's currently already rebel most of the times when they want to. Noone apart from regulars (which already rebel) would really care for a ranking, so I do not think it would become much harder for the CT's.

Also, you can't possibly compare this with another game...

nase:
Because of making this system doesnt say to me, WOW ATTACK NOW THE CTS DONT CARE, of course I die, I will be same careful, but its funny with rank...

Emziek wrote:this is what i want in some kind of rank system
T
1.1"how many times got last request"
1.2"how many cts killed in last request"
1.3"most played last request"
1.4"Favorite weapon" >(the Weapon u killed the most cts with)
1.5 "How many succeful Rebels" ( T won a day without losing more then 60% of the Team)
1.5"How many days Rioted without more then 20% of the team die"

cts
2.1"How many succeful days" (how many days u won as ct)
2.2"How many days without any riot" (how many days that no ct died)
2.3"how many last request won against a T"
2.4"How many losses against a T in Last request"
2.5"How many times u got killed by knife"
2.6"How many times u got killed by nade"
2.7"How many times u got killed by any weapon" (Doesnt include knife and nade)
2.8"Favorite weapon" (look at 1.4)

I can maybe make this..
But: Then I need the Last Request system of nD.
& that's private

Dont make it exalus it is boring and a waste of time.
The best thing you could make is what florent said in a way

Make a rank system for terrorits like this

Top 15 Most Wanted
1. Player name - Kills
15. Player namme - Kills

And make it only for t's the one by emziek will just mass fk just do it for t

D4zO: Well, Emziek developed maybe, maybe its better but more work to do, but my idea was a simple one. I mean I want that my statistik should be saved after I kill 6 CTs in the server, I want a rank to se whos the best T in the server

If I could do this and nD would accept I would do it, but I cant... :/

Yeah thats what i mean, The terrorist who kills most ct's gets a higher rank
Instead of the achievment thing..

Yeah so the rank system is good for Ts but bad for Cts.

So I agree that the ranking system at the Ts!

So, is there anyone I can write this idea to, than are going to decide if this should be accepted or not?

here are too many server crashes and the top15 list or what its called will be reseted all the time ....

Smizla: It wont after a server crash, what does it have with the rank to do?

on all other nD servers with a rank system, the ranks completely reset upon server crashes.

However, this would need an entirely new plugin to be written, so this can be taken into account that the server crashes often.

Marksel wrote:on all other nD servers with a rank system, the ranks completely reset upon server crashes.

However, this would need an entirely new plugin to be written, so this can be taken into account that the server crashes often.

The xp on wc3 doesn't reset either so yeah

the xp on wc3 is saving on your steam id account not on the server.. and i think xp is saving every 10 sec or so..

Smizla wrote:the xp on wc3 is saving on your steam id account not on the server.. and i think xp is saving every 10 sec or so..

It does not save every 10sec.
When the server crashes, everyone that was in the server when the crash happened will have lost the xp they gained for that entire map. However if you disconnect before the crash happends, the xp is saved.

So: the xp saves when you leave the server (if it crashes it never registers a leave and therefore the xp is lost), a map change basicly is a reconnect to the server so it does save your xp there.