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Benne, cheat?
Re: Benne, how can u let this jerk play?
ohhhhh thats wallhack :> , benne cheater :>
ur not soo pro waller as i though :>
hope his ass gets banned
p.s. - thanks good ppl like kwaakt exist...
ur not soo pro waller as i though :>
hope his ass gets banned
p.s. - thanks good ppl like kwaakt exist...
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Re: Benne, how can u let this jerk play?
To me this is wallhack, but idk i suck at cs so i guess i cant judge correctly about it.
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Re: Benne, how can u let this jerk play?
pro waller and waller catcher says its wall ---------------------------------------->
gl benne u need that to not get banned :>
gl benne u need that to not get banned :>
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Re: Benne, how can u let this jerk play?
For me 1st kill clearly shows that he has wh but 2nd one not really, he could see his nick but after watching it few times in slow mo i think his he shooted next to him not him or am i wrong?
Btw. Heres link to Spx thread i was talking about:
http://neondragon.forumotion.co.uk/trash-f54/benne-wh-7-spawn-837-steam_0015547231-10-0524-72-0-t3283.htm
Btw. Heres link to Spx thread i was talking about:
http://neondragon.forumotion.co.uk/trash-f54/benne-wh-7-spawn-837-steam_0015547231-10-0524-72-0-t3283.htm
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Re: Benne, how can u let this jerk play?
Syntech wrote:For me 1st kill clearly shows that he has wh but 2nd one not really, he could see his nick while crouching but after watching it few times in slow mo i think his he shooted next to him not him or am i wrong?
Btw. Heres link to Spx thread i was talking about:
http://neondragon.forumotion.co.uk/trash-f54/benne-wh-7-spawn-837-steam_0015547231-10-0524-72-0-t3283.htm
Kwaakt points that out at the end of the youtube vid.
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Re: Benne, how can u let this jerk play?
Hmm i didnt watched it to the end so i didnt knew about this
Edit.
Look at the first kill after him getting shooted his aim jumped at place where terrorist it. Maybe aimbot? Kwaakt, if u can please upload demo, i would like to watch it with x-spec and see if he aim exacly at him after being shooted.
Edit.
Look at the first kill after him getting shooted his aim jumped at place where terrorist it. Maybe aimbot? Kwaakt, if u can please upload demo, i would like to watch it with x-spec and see if he aim exacly at him after being shooted.
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Re: Benne, how can u let this jerk play?
Its wallhack anyway ...even if that box thing wasnt enough we already got proof its cheat from this vid and other one from spx , just watch with wall/xspec and see that when ppl are coming he retreats and he doesnt hear...+ when he has nade and ppl rushing to find him , without hearing he retreats and hides after wall...only with wallhack or xspec u can see that , so watch spx's demo with that one then u got more proof
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Re: Benne, how can u let this jerk play?
@syntech:
I had recorded this with fraps. So it isnt possible to check that.
But after you mentioned aimbot it could be explaining why he shot next to the Terrorist and killed him. The next frame shows an instant move of his crosshair to the place were the bullit hit the wall and terrorist. You can see that at 2.00 - till the end.
I had recorded this with fraps. So it isnt possible to check that.
But after you mentioned aimbot it could be explaining why he shot next to the Terrorist and killed him. The next frame shows an instant move of his crosshair to the place were the bullit hit the wall and terrorist. You can see that at 2.00 - till the end.
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Re: Benne, how can u let this jerk play?
Answer:DarkNess wrote:I actually see nothing really obvious.
That was the prerequisite to see it DarkieSkibadee wrote:Clearly, I speced with XSpec
Newest demo(from kwaakt):
The first one looks seriously like aimbot. When you have aimbot, you sometimes doesn't shoot at the head directly when you start shooting before you see the enemy, like when you look through the wall and start shooting through it. And sometimes you don't give a headshot directly but it really looks like auto-aim with binded button like pressing the right mouse(can be bind on any key) and then the aimbot aims for you...
At the second one he could have gotten some informations over steam friends because the other CT who was at the boxing ring knew it too. I didn't watch the chat, tell me if I'm wrong.
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Re: Benne, how can u let this jerk play?
Yes, he could have some informations from friends but it doesnt change the fact he has sillent aim/aimbot - watch demo to the end and you will see this.
And back to the first kill, i think its aimbot + wallhack. I dont know what new functions aimbot has now but maybe when he gets hit his aim jumps at guy who injured him?
And back to the first kill, i think its aimbot + wallhack. I dont know what new functions aimbot has now but maybe when he gets hit his aim jumps at guy who injured him?
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Re: Benne, how can u let this jerk play?
Paulo stop acting like a child
He doesnt hack ive searched his comp and i know him and if he deleted it and re-downloaded it he would feel really bad about it
He also is a nice person and is honest he wouldnt want to wreck gameplay like some people.....
He doesnt hack ive searched his comp and i know him and if he deleted it and re-downloaded it he would feel really bad about it
He also is a nice person and is honest he wouldnt want to wreck gameplay like some people.....
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Re: Benne, how can u let this jerk play?
hazik666 wrote:Paulo stop acting like a child
He doesnt hack ive searched his comp and i know him and if he deleted it and re-downloaded it he would feel really bad about it
He also is a nice person and is honest he wouldnt want to wreck gameplay like some people.....
Im not saying benne is cheating, BUT.
Scan = useless - USB does the work, Ive been playing with some guys from a group called Anticheat.org, they got a IRC scanner and they find alot, but not people useing USB.
People which are doing bad stuff normaly tries to act friendly (not saying benne isnt a Nice person, He is ) but you cant really use that to decide a cheater.
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Re: Benne, how can u let this jerk play?
kwaakt wrote:Here is the movie.
One situation he killed a T with a gun and he was behind a wall when benne started shooting. Before he started shooting he clearly preaimed. Just like youve seen in the other video. And another situation where the t was hiding below the boxing ring. He shot the t instant when he entered the boxring. with one shot and at a moment it is impossible to see the t hiding there.
His name was unstopable password in this movie. If you want his steam id. Ive a screenshot of it.
its clearly to see no cheat in this movie. first kill i look down ind i cage and see 1 who dont jump. 2 kill - one with auto sniper is shooting me from elevator, and i was low hp 1 hit more and i was dead , so who dont prefire on that one ?. 3 kill - at boxing ring . i coudt see his name ?
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Re: Benne, how can u let this jerk play?
at boxing ring watch it from 2:40 - clear sillent aim or aimbot
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Re: Benne, how can u let this jerk play?
Syntech wrote:at boxing ring watch it from 2:40 - clear sillent aim or aimbot
aimbot ? i hit him in feet or somthing ?
btw i cant be aimbot or somthing. cause my bullet went where i shot it, hitbox fail ?
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Re: Benne, how can u let this jerk play?
Benne after this last video from Kwaakt im starting to change my opinion alot, I don't see a point for u to do it, since you already have amazing aim, It's just plain stupid if u DO use a WH it would be really stupid, BUT i wont make any calls I hope pukata can spare 5 min of hes precious time and make a decision.
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aimbot ? i hit him in feet or somthing ?
If he has aimbot, how come the bullet did go the way where he aimed at? And not towards the T?
In the frame by frame you see the shot going exactly the way he aimed it.
the deagle has weird hitboxes indeed but its not a sign of aimbot at all
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The Hater wrote:Benne after this last video from Kwaakt im starting to change my opinion alot, I don't see a point for u to do it, since you already have amazing aim, It's just plain stupid if u DO use a WH it would be really stupid, BUT i wont make any calls I hope pukata can spare 5 min of hes precious time and make a decision.
first kill i look down ind i cage and see 1 who dont jump. 2 kill - one with auto sniper is shooting me from elevator, and i was low hp 1 hit more and i was dead , so who dont prefire on that one ?. 3 kill - at boxing ring . i coudt see his name ?
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Re: Benne, how can u let this jerk play?
first kill doesnt have anything to do with it.
second kill Im gonna explain tomorrow why I think its cheating.
By looking it frame by frame, adding timers (cause the t is 0.02 seconds visible at the moment he died), zooming in to see the preaim in combination with the prefire and counting the number of shots needed to kill the t (2shots. 1st one through wall, second after the t is 0.02 seconds visible)
Your third kill: You actually could have seen his name. Ive lighted the video to max to see in the dark. look a few times at the first 4 seconds at normal speed. Then look to the slomo. (The timer shows there hours:minutes:seconds:milliseconds).
I see really some weird stuff there. You pass the t with your crosshair, the moment you could have seen the name, and then you shot one bullet. But I find it weird that you crosshair is way out of aim. When you shot that bullet. The t died with that bullet and after that your crosshair moves really fast (0.04 sec) to the spot where youve shot the bullet. In my eyes that is cheating. Cause when I chrouch and shoot with the deagle the bullit lands in my croshair at that short distance. and not completely offside it. In the first seconds you see that after the first bullit your next shots are in your crosshair. Without rapid movements.
second kill Im gonna explain tomorrow why I think its cheating.
By looking it frame by frame, adding timers (cause the t is 0.02 seconds visible at the moment he died), zooming in to see the preaim in combination with the prefire and counting the number of shots needed to kill the t (2shots. 1st one through wall, second after the t is 0.02 seconds visible)
Your third kill: You actually could have seen his name. Ive lighted the video to max to see in the dark. look a few times at the first 4 seconds at normal speed. Then look to the slomo. (The timer shows there hours:minutes:seconds:milliseconds).
I see really some weird stuff there. You pass the t with your crosshair, the moment you could have seen the name, and then you shot one bullet. But I find it weird that you crosshair is way out of aim. When you shot that bullet. The t died with that bullet and after that your crosshair moves really fast (0.04 sec) to the spot where youve shot the bullet. In my eyes that is cheating. Cause when I chrouch and shoot with the deagle the bullit lands in my croshair at that short distance. and not completely offside it. In the first seconds you see that after the first bullit your next shots are in your crosshair. Without rapid movements.
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Re: Benne, how can u let this jerk play?
In his shot he changed movement so the bullet went the other side.
try it.
try it.
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the obvious part about the elevator that benne didnt see the guy before, only that he got shot...
thats the only thing I found suspicious
thats the only thing I found suspicious
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Re: Benne, how can u let this jerk play?
Why does the kill pops immediatly up right above in the screen? Cause the bullit is already (far out of aim) there 'before' his crosshair followes.Sora wrote:In his shot he changed movement so the bullet went the other side.
try it.
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KoD wrote:the obvious part about the elevator that benne didnt see the guy before, only that he got shot...
thats the only thing I found suspicious
okay look. when i was in the window or what is it . i can see the cage, i saw a ct runing down there so the T coudt only be at elevator. and who dosnt prefire if an sniper is shooting at you ? it would be stupid if you dont .
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Re: Benne, how can u let this jerk play?
kwaakt wrote:first kill doesnt have anything to do with it.
second kill Im gonna explain tomorrow why I think its cheating.
By looking it frame by frame, adding timers (cause the t is 0.02 seconds visible at the moment he died), zooming in to see the preaim in combination with the prefire and counting the number of shots needed to kill the t (2shots. 1st one through wall, second after the t is 0.02 seconds visible)
Your third kill: You actually could have seen his name. Ive lighted the video to max to see in the dark. look a few times at the first 4 seconds at normal speed. Then look to the slomo. (The timer shows there hours:minutes:seconds:milliseconds).
I see really some weird stuff there. You pass the t with your crosshair, the moment you could have seen the name, and then you shot one bullet. But I find it weird that you crosshair is way out of aim. When you shot that bullet. The t died with that bullet and after that your crosshair moves really fast (0.04 sec) to the spot where youve shot the bullet. In my eyes that is cheating. Cause when I chrouch and shoot with the deagle the bullit lands in my croshair at that short distance. and not completely offside it. In the first seconds you see that after the first bullit your next shots are in your crosshair. Without rapid movements.
that boxing ring kill. it most be a hitbox fail .
and btw i can see his name. so thas why i aim like i do aim in the side where i saw the name.
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Re: Benne, how can u let this jerk play?
I asked some random guys in my friendlist to watch all the demos and everyone said he cheats and I mean really everyone! When you ask 1000 random players 800 says he is cheating. The other 200 are cheaters too and don't want to get discovered so they say it's not cheating they did some kills like this too. You can seriously ask about every pro in cs or esl if he's using wh or aimbot and like 90% would say yes!!
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